Webware is one of my favorite webapp. Simply because i understand how it works. There is no magic in.. just a standard Servlet way of think.
But on the other side, i really think some part of webware should be left out. Look at the standard webware packages:
Only CGIWrapper / WebKit / WebUtils are used in Webware core. (+ TaskKit) All other stuff are not webware centric, even if they are usually working only by webware developpers:
- COMKit is win32 COM object related (nothing to do w/ webware core)
- MiddleKit is a DB abstraction layer
- PSP is a template language
- UserKit is a user framework ..( someone ever used it ???)
I really think we should provide only a simple package w/ webware core, and find a way to install third parties code as ‘Products’. This is definitly the main feature of Zope.
The recent post of Ian on the webware-discuss mailing list show that we shall write webware component like Wiki .. or AuthModule .. and provide them to the community.
I worked on Zope for about 2 years.. and right now when i want to build a simple website for the lab. Webware never come to my mind simply because it enforce me to rewrite the wheel for everything. In common web project we need some core components like auth, or photo gallery .. things that are really simple and provided w/ simple Zope Products. but for webware we only provide some _unusefull_ / _unmaintained_ Kit.
This is not a contestation post! but a open letter to the webware community.
The current webware package try to enforce developper to use some tools (like PSP / MiddleKit) but this is the wrong way. I never used PSP (i hate this syntax).. and MiddleKit has serious competitor, right now. I usually use SQLObject and ZPTPage. But there is no place on the web where a newbie can find that you can write ZPT in webware .. Webware really need a clean way to build Products and a website that present all this stuff to users.